Header date and received date different

johnsillitto · Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 3

Some of my emails are being delayed. With most of my emails the
'internet header' delivery date and the date in the 'Received' column
in the Inbox are the same, within a few seconds. But about one in
twenty emails have very different dates and times between the header
stamp and the 'Received' stamp.. Sometimes days different. The
'Received' date in the Inbox is always earlier than the delivery date
in the header. How can this happen? The email appears in my Inbox at
the date and time in the header but the 'Received' stamp is much
earler. And of course, with my Inbox sorted by 'Received' date the new
email pops up well down the list from the top. Cannot work out what is
going on here. Any ideas anybody?

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Diane Poremsky [MVP] · Joined: 12 Aug 2007 Posts: 176

are you using the received date or the sent date? This is common with the
sent date but the received date should be when the server or outlook gets
it. Do you have more than 1 acct and are the affected messages from 1 of the
accts?

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"john@sillitto.co.uk" wrote in message @62g2000hsn.googlegroups.com...
> Some of my emails are being delayed. With most of my emails the
> 'internet header' delivery date and the date in the 'Received' column
> in the Inbox are the same, within a few seconds. But about one in
> twenty emails have very different dates and times between the header
> stamp and the 'Received' stamp.. Sometimes days different. The
> 'Received' date in the Inbox is always earlier than the delivery date
> in the header. How can this happen? The email appears in my Inbox at
> the date and time in the header but the 'Received' stamp is much
> earler. And of course, with my Inbox sorted by 'Received' date the new
> email pops up well down the list from the top. Cannot work out what is
> going on here. Any ideas anybody?

johnsillitto · Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 3

On Feb 22, 12:56 pm, "Diane Poremsky [MVP]"
wrote:
> are you using the received date or the sent date? This is common with the
> sent date but the received date should be when the server or outlook gets
> it. Do you have more than 1 acct and are the affected messages from 1 of the
> accts?
>
> --
> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
> Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
> Need Help with Common Tasks?http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
> Outlook 2007:http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/
>
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> "j...@sillitto.co.uk" wrote in message
>
> @62g2000hsn.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Some of my emails are being delayed. With most of my emails the
> > 'internet header' delivery date and the date in the 'Received' column
> > in the Inbox are the same, within a few seconds. But about one in
> > twenty emails have very different dates and times between the header
> > stamp and the 'Received' stamp.. Sometimes days different. The
> > 'Received' date in the Inbox is always earlier than the delivery date
> > in the header. How can this happen? The email appears in my Inbox at
> > the date and time in the header but the 'Received' stamp is much
> > earler. And of course, with my Inbox sorted by 'Received' date the new
> > email pops up well down the list from the top. Cannot work out what is
> > going on here. Any ideas anybody?

Thanks for picking up on this Diane.
Definitely the Received date. I'm comparing the date in the Received
column in the Inbox with the delivery date at the top of the emails
internet header. Sometimes they are very different with the Received
date being days earlier than the header date.

Only have one account, though I do use my server at 123reg to re-
direct my emails to my isp server. Checking the headers there is no
delay at 123reg. The received and sent timestamps are always within a
few seconds.

I have now setup 123reg to redirect both to my isp server and to a
googlemail account at the same time. So I should get two copies of my
emails, one direct to my isp and one via googlemail. I might then be
able to find out where the delay actually is.

I will post more as and when I have more information.

Nikki Peterson [MVP - Out · Joined: 12 Aug 2007 Posts: 18

This may or may not apply, but I sometimes send messages with
a "Delay" delivery.

- New Message
- Options...
- Select next to: Do not deliver before: (Select Date and Time)

I do this when I have a message that I do not want to forget to
send, but I do not want someone to get it before I am ready.

Nikki Peterson

"john@sillitto.co.uk" wrote in message @64g2000hsw.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 22, 12:56 pm, "Diane Poremsky [MVP]"
> wrote:
>> are you using the received date or the sent date? This is common with the
>> sent date but the received date should be when the server or outlook gets
>> it. Do you have more than 1 acct and are the affected messages from 1 of
>> the
>> accts?
>>
>> --
>> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
>> Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
>> Need Help with Common Tasks?http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
>> Outlook 2007:http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/
>>
>> Outlook Tips by email:
>> dailytips-subscribe-requ...@lists.outlooktips.net
>>
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>>
>> "j...@sillitto.co.uk" wrote in message
>>
>> @62g2000hsn.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > Some of my emails are being delayed. With most of my emails the
>> > 'internet header' delivery date and the date in the 'Received' column
>> > in the Inbox are the same, within a few seconds. But about one in
>> > twenty emails have very different dates and times between the header
>> > stamp and the 'Received' stamp.. Sometimes days different. The
>> > 'Received' date in the Inbox is always earlier than the delivery date
>> > in the header. How can this happen? The email appears in my Inbox at
>> > the date and time in the header but the 'Received' stamp is much
>> > earler. And of course, with my Inbox sorted by 'Received' date the new
>> > email pops up well down the list from the top. Cannot work out what is
>> > going on here. Any ideas anybody?
>
> Thanks for picking up on this Diane.
> Definitely the Received date. I'm comparing the date in the Received
> column in the Inbox with the delivery date at the top of the emails
> internet header. Sometimes they are very different with the Received
> date being days earlier than the header date.
>
> Only have one account, though I do use my server at 123reg to re-
> direct my emails to my isp server. Checking the headers there is no
> delay at 123reg. The received and sent timestamps are always within a
> few seconds.
>
> I have now setup 123reg to redirect both to my isp server and to a
> googlemail account at the same time. So I should get two copies of my
> emails, one direct to my isp and one via googlemail. I might then be
> able to find out where the delay actually is.
>
> I will post more as and when I have more information.

Diane Poremsky [MVP] · Joined: 12 Aug 2007 Posts: 176

> Definitely the Received date. I'm comparing the date in the Received
> column in the Inbox with the delivery date at the top of the emails
> internet header. Sometimes they are very different with the Received
> date being days earlier than the header date.

so the date in your inbox is days earlier than the header says? that sounds
like a problem with the server's date and time setting.

--
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Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
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"john@sillitto.co.uk" wrote in message @64g2000hsw.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 22, 12:56 pm, "Diane Poremsky [MVP]"
> wrote:
>> are you using the received date or the sent date? This is common with the
>> sent date but the received date should be when the server or outlook gets
>> it. Do you have more than 1 acct and are the affected messages from 1 of
>> the
>> accts?
>>
>> --
>> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
>> Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
>> Need Help with Common Tasks?http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
>> Outlook 2007:http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/
>>
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>>
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>>
>> "j...@sillitto.co.uk" wrote in message
>>
>> @62g2000hsn.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > Some of my emails are being delayed. With most of my emails the
>> > 'internet header' delivery date and the date in the 'Received' column
>> > in the Inbox are the same, within a few seconds. But about one in
>> > twenty emails have very different dates and times between the header
>> > stamp and the 'Received' stamp.. Sometimes days different. The
>> > 'Received' date in the Inbox is always earlier than the delivery date
>> > in the header. How can this happen? The email appears in my Inbox at
>> > the date and time in the header but the 'Received' stamp is much
>> > earler. And of course, with my Inbox sorted by 'Received' date the new
>> > email pops up well down the list from the top. Cannot work out what is
>> > going on here. Any ideas anybody?
>
> Thanks for picking up on this Diane.
> Definitely the Received date. I'm comparing the date in the Received
> column in the Inbox with the delivery date at the top of the emails
> internet header. Sometimes they are very different with the Received
> date being days earlier than the header date.
>
> Only have one account, though I do use my server at 123reg to re-
> direct my emails to my isp server. Checking the headers there is no
> delay at 123reg. The received and sent timestamps are always within a
> few seconds.
>
> I have now setup 123reg to redirect both to my isp server and to a
> googlemail account at the same time. So I should get two copies of my
> emails, one direct to my isp and one via googlemail. I might then be
> able to find out where the delay actually is.
>
> I will post more as and when I have more information.

johnsillitto · Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 3

On Feb 25, 1:09 pm, "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote:
> > Definitely the Received date. I'm comparing the date in the Received
> > column in the Inbox with the delivery date at the top of the emails
> > internet header. Sometimes they are very different with the Received
> > date being days earlier than the header date.
>
> so the date in your inbox is days earlier than the header says? that sounds
> like a problem with the server's date and time setting.
>
> --
> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
> Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
> Need Help with Common Tasks?http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
> Outlook 2007:http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/
>
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> "j...@sillitto.co.uk" wrote in message
>
> @64g2000hsw.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Feb 22, 12:56 pm, "Diane Poremsky [MVP]"
> > wrote:
> >> are you using the received date or the sent date? This is common with the
> >> sent date but the received date should be when the server or outlook gets
> >> it. Do you have more than 1 acct and are the affected messages from 1 of
> >> the
> >> accts?
>
> >> --
> >> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
> >> Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
> >> Need Help with Common Tasks?http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
> >> Outlook 2007:http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/
>
> >> Outlook Tips by email:
> >> dailytips-subscribe-requ...@lists.outlooktips.net
>
> >> Outlook Tips:http://www.outlook-tips.net/
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> >> Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:
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>
> >> "j...@sillitto.co.uk" wrote in message
>
> >>@62g2000hsn.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > Some of my emails are being delayed. With most of my emails the
> >> > 'internet header' delivery date and the date in the 'Received' column
> >> > in the Inbox are the same, within a few seconds. But about one in
> >> > twenty emails have very different dates and times between the header
> >> > stamp and the 'Received' stamp.. Sometimes days different. The
> >> > 'Received' date in the Inbox is always earlier than the delivery date
> >> > in the header. How can this happen? The email appears in my Inbox at
> >> > the date and time in the header but the 'Received' stamp is much
> >> > earler. And of course, with my Inbox sorted by 'Received' date the new
> >> > email pops up well down the list from the top. Cannot work out what is
> >> > going on here. Any ideas anybody?
>
> > Thanks for picking up on this Diane.
> > Definitely the Received date. I'm comparing the date in the Received
> > column in the Inbox with the delivery date at the top of the emails
> > internet header. Sometimes they are very different with the Received
> > date being days earlier than the header date.
>
> > Only have one account, though I do use my server at 123reg to re-
> > direct my emails to my isp server. Checking the headers there is no
> > delay at 123reg. The received and sent timestamps are always within a
> > few seconds.
>
> > I have now setup 123reg to redirect both to my isp server and to a
> > googlemail account at the same time. So I should get two copies of my
> > emails, one direct to my isp and one via googlemail. I might then be
> > able to find out where the delay actually is.
>
> > I will post more as and when I have more information.

Yes that's right the date in the inbox is days earlier than the header
says. When the email arrives in my inbox it pops up well down the list
(which is sorted by received date) often below the bottom line of the
visible window and so I miss it. If it is within the visible window it
is obvious because of the 'unread' folder icon amongst all the 'read'
ones.

What is strange, if it is the server time setting, is that most emails
are right. I don't know how the servers work - perhaps they have
several servers servicing this post box and one is a rogue with the
wrong settings.

It is at Pipex Homecall and I have yet to get a reply to several
emails I have sent querying this problem.

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