My reply to a post does not always show.

Emrys Davies · Joined: 12 Aug 2007 Posts: 10

I use Win98 SE, OE6 and IE6.

Sometimes when I reply to a post in these forums my reply does not show,
but I know that it has been received in the forum because of references
made to it by other posters. Using 'Test' will not assist me in these
circumstances.

It seems to happen mostly when I send an URL. I give the server plenty
of time to respond.

Any ideas please?

Regards,
Emrys Davies.

Archived from group: microsoft>public>win98>internet>outlookexpress

Emrys Davies · Joined: 12 Aug 2007 Posts: 10

"Emrys Davies" wrote in message$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> I use Win98 SE, OE6 and IE6.
>
> Sometimes when I reply to a post in these forums my reply does not
show,
> but I know that it has been received in the forum because of
references
> made to it by other posters. Using 'Test' will not assist me in these
> circumstances.
>
> It seems to happen mostly when I send an URL. I give the server
plenty
> of time to respond.
>
> Any ideas please?
>
> Regards,
> Emrys Davies.

My initial post is clearly visible to me so now I will include an URL in
my reply to it to see if that works.
http://www.tiscali.co.uk/events/2007/rugby-world-cup/

Emrys Davies · Joined: 12 Aug 2007 Posts: 10

"Emrys Davies" wrote in message$1_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> "Emrys Davies" wrote in message
> $1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> > I use Win98 SE, OE6 and IE6.
> >
> > Sometimes when I reply to a post in these forums my reply does not
> show,
> > but I know that it has been received in the forum because of
> references
> > made to it by other posters. Using 'Test' will not assist me in
these
> > circumstances.
> >
> > It seems to happen mostly when I send an URL. I give the server
> plenty
> > of time to respond.
> >
> > Any ideas please?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Emrys Davies.
>
> My initial post is clearly visible to me so now I will include an URL
in
> my reply to it to see if that works.
> http://www.tiscali.co.uk/events/2007/rugby-world-cup/

Yes, that also worked so at the moment all seems to be well. Sorry for
the bother.

Regards,
Emrys Davies.

Michael Santovec · Joined: 12 Aug 2007 Posts: 182

A number of things can go wrong with news posts that are out of your
control.

When you post a news message, it is initially only available on the news
server that you used. Depending on how busy the news server is, it
might take a few seconds, a few minutes, or a few hours before the
message is available for reading. And only people who use the same news
server can read your post, at that point.

Periodically, the news server contacts one or more other news servers.
It passes on any new posts that it has in public news groups and in turn
receives any new posts that the other servers have. If the received
posts are for a news group that the server carries, the server keeps a
copy. In this fashion, a news post is propagated to other news servers
around the world. This is not entirely reliable. It can take days for
a message to make it to another news server. And many messages
disappear into the Internet bit bucket. If you post 5 messages on news
server "A", posts 1, 2, 4 and 5 might make it to news server "B" and 1,
3 and 4 might make it to news server "C".

And even if you are looking at the "same" news server as the original
post, it might not really be the "same" news server. Larger ISPs and
newsgroup services have banks of news servers. Each time you connect to
the newsgroups you may get a different server from the bank. They are
supposed to be kept in synch so that they have the same news posts, but
it's not unusual for them to get out-of-synch. And so, some people
using the "same" news server may see and reply to posts that others
don't see.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm

"Emrys Davies" wrote in message $1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>I use Win98 SE, OE6 and IE6.
>
> Sometimes when I reply to a post in these forums my reply does not
> show,
> but I know that it has been received in the forum because of
> references
> made to it by other posters. Using 'Test' will not assist me in these
> circumstances.
>
> It seems to happen mostly when I send an URL. I give the server
> plenty
> of time to respond.
>
> Any ideas please?
>
> Regards,
> Emrys Davies.
>
>

Emrys Davies · Joined: 12 Aug 2007 Posts: 10

"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
news:%23fUAbkU$HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> A number of things can go wrong with news posts that are out of your
> control.
>
> When you post a news message, it is initially only available on the
news
> server that you used. Depending on how busy the news server is, it
> might take a few seconds, a few minutes, or a few hours before the
> message is available for reading. And only people who use the same
news
> server can read your post, at that point.
>
> Periodically, the news server contacts one or more other news servers.
> It passes on any new posts that it has in public news groups and in
turn
> receives any new posts that the other servers have. If the received
> posts are for a news group that the server carries, the server keeps a
> copy. In this fashion, a news post is propagated to other news
servers
> around the world. This is not entirely reliable. It can take days
for
> a message to make it to another news server. And many messages
> disappear into the Internet bit bucket. If you post 5 messages on
news
> server "A", posts 1, 2, 4 and 5 might make it to news server "B" and
1,
> 3 and 4 might make it to news server "C".
>
> And even if you are looking at the "same" news server as the original
> post, it might not really be the "same" news server. Larger ISPs and
> newsgroup services have banks of news servers. Each time you connect
to
> the newsgroups you may get a different server from the bank. They are
> supposed to be kept in synch so that they have the same news posts,
but
> it's not unusual for them to get out-of-synch. And so, some people
> using the "same" news server may see and reply to posts that others
> don't see.
>
> --
>
> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>
>
> "Emrys Davies" wrote in message
> $1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> >I use Win98 SE, OE6 and IE6.
> >
> > Sometimes when I reply to a post in these forums my reply does not
> > show,
> > but I know that it has been received in the forum because of
> > references
> > made to it by other posters. Using 'Test' will not assist me in
these
> > circumstances.
> >
> > It seems to happen mostly when I send an URL. I give the server
> > plenty
> > of time to respond.
> >
> > Any ideas please?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Emrys Davies.

That is a very explanatory answer to say the least and much appreciated.

Thanks a lot.

Regards,
Emrys Davies

Emrys Davies · Joined: 12 Aug 2007 Posts: 10

"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
news:%23fUAbkU$HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> A number of things can go wrong with news posts that are out of your
> control.
>
> When you post a news message, it is initially only available on the
news
> server that you used. Depending on how busy the news server is, it
> might take a few seconds, a few minutes, or a few hours before the
> message is available for reading. And only people who use the same
news
> server can read your post, at that point.
>
> Periodically, the news server contacts one or more other news servers.
> It passes on any new posts that it has in public news groups and in
turn
> receives any new posts that the other servers have. If the received
> posts are for a news group that the server carries, the server keeps a
> copy. In this fashion, a news post is propagated to other news
servers
> around the world. This is not entirely reliable. It can take days
for
> a message to make it to another news server. And many messages
> disappear into the Internet bit bucket. If you post 5 messages on
news
> server "A", posts 1, 2, 4 and 5 might make it to news server "B" and
1,
> 3 and 4 might make it to news server "C".
>
> And even if you are looking at the "same" news server as the original
> post, it might not really be the "same" news server. Larger ISPs and
> newsgroup services have banks of news servers. Each time you connect
to
> the newsgroups you may get a different server from the bank. They are
> supposed to be kept in synch so that they have the same news posts,
but
> it's not unusual for them to get out-of-synch. And so, some people
> using the "same" news server may see and reply to posts that others
> don't see.
>
> --
>
> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>
>
> "Emrys Davies" wrote in message
> $1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> >I use Win98 SE, OE6 and IE6.
> >
> > Sometimes when I reply to a post in these forums my reply does not
> > show,
> > but I know that it has been received in the forum because of
> > references
> > made to it by other posters. Using 'Test' will not assist me in
these
> > circumstances.
> >
> > It seems to happen mostly when I send an URL. I give the server
> > plenty
> > of time to respond.
> >
> > Any ideas please?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Emrys Davies.

Michael,

I replied to your post yesterday, but I cannot see it. Is it visible to
you?

Regards,
Emrys Davies.

Michael Santovec · Joined: 12 Aug 2007 Posts: 182

I see 2 replies to my post.

This one$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com

And one posted yesterday about the same time of day.$1_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com

I see that you are posting via Tiscali's news server.

For best results, use the "msnews.microsoft.com" news server for reading
and posting messages regarding help with Microsoft products. This is
the news server that most of the regulars use. You'll get more timely
messages, and miss fewer of them. News messages often take days to
wander from server to server, and often get lost.

To set up an account for MSnews in OE
http://www.insideoe.com/resources/communities.htm#setupmsnews

The "msnews.microsoft.com" news server is free to the public. However,
it only carries newsgroups to support Microsoft products. You'll also
find many newsgroups that your ISP doesn't carry. This server has over
2,000 Microsoft newsgroups.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm

"Emrys Davies" wrote in message $1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> "Michael Santovec" wrote in message
> news:%23fUAbkU$HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> A number of things can go wrong with news posts that are out of your
>> control.
>>
>> When you post a news message, it is initially only available on the
> news
>> server that you used. Depending on how busy the news server is, it
>> might take a few seconds, a few minutes, or a few hours before the
>> message is available for reading. And only people who use the same
> news
>> server can read your post, at that point.
>>
>> Periodically, the news server contacts one or more other news
>> servers.
>> It passes on any new posts that it has in public news groups and in
> turn
>> receives any new posts that the other servers have. If the received
>> posts are for a news group that the server carries, the server keeps
>> a
>> copy. In this fashion, a news post is propagated to other news
> servers
>> around the world. This is not entirely reliable. It can take days
> for
>> a message to make it to another news server. And many messages
>> disappear into the Internet bit bucket. If you post 5 messages on
> news
>> server "A", posts 1, 2, 4 and 5 might make it to news server "B" and
> 1,
>> 3 and 4 might make it to news server "C".
>>
>> And even if you are looking at the "same" news server as the original
>> post, it might not really be the "same" news server. Larger ISPs and
>> newsgroup services have banks of news servers. Each time you connect
> to
>> the newsgroups you may get a different server from the bank. They
>> are
>> supposed to be kept in synch so that they have the same news posts,
> but
>> it's not unusual for them to get out-of-synch. And so, some people
>> using the "same" news server may see and reply to posts that others
>> don't see.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>>
>>
>> "Emrys Davies" wrote in message
>> $1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>> >I use Win98 SE, OE6 and IE6.
>> >
>> > Sometimes when I reply to a post in these forums my reply does not
>> > show,
>> > but I know that it has been received in the forum because of
>> > references
>> > made to it by other posters. Using 'Test' will not assist me in
> these
>> > circumstances.
>> >
>> > It seems to happen mostly when I send an URL. I give the server
>> > plenty
>> > of time to respond.
>> >
>> > Any ideas please?
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Emrys Davies.
>
> Michael,
>
> I replied to your post yesterday, but I cannot see it. Is it visible
> to
> you?
>
> Regards,
> Emrys Davies.
>
>

Emrys Davies · Joined: 12 Aug 2007 Posts: 10

"Michael Santovec" wrote in message$HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> I see 2 replies to my post.
>
> This one
> $1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com
>
> And one posted yesterday about the same time of day.
> $1_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com
>
> I see that you are posting via Tiscali's news server.
>
> For best results, use the "msnews.microsoft.com" news server for
reading
> and posting messages regarding help with Microsoft products. This is
> the news server that most of the regulars use. You'll get more timely
> messages, and miss fewer of them. News messages often take days to
> wander from server to server, and often get lost.
>
> To set up an account for MSnews in OE
> http://www.insideoe.com/resources/communities.htm#setupmsnews
>
> The "msnews.microsoft.com" news server is free to the public.
However,
> it only carries newsgroups to support Microsoft products. You'll also
> find many newsgroups that your ISP doesn't carry. This server has
over
> 2,000 Microsoft newsgroups.
>
>
> --
>
> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>
>
> "Emrys Davies" wrote in message
> $1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> > "Michael Santovec" wrote in message
> > news:%23fUAbkU$HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> A number of things can go wrong with news posts that are out of
your
> >> control.
> >>
> >> When you post a news message, it is initially only available on the
> > news
> >> server that you used. Depending on how busy the news server is, it
> >> might take a few seconds, a few minutes, or a few hours before the
> >> message is available for reading. And only people who use the same
> > news
> >> server can read your post, at that point.
> >>
> >> Periodically, the news server contacts one or more other news
> >> servers.
> >> It passes on any new posts that it has in public news groups and in
> > turn
> >> receives any new posts that the other servers have. If the
received
> >> posts are for a news group that the server carries, the server
keeps
> >> a
> >> copy. In this fashion, a news post is propagated to other news
> > servers
> >> around the world. This is not entirely reliable. It can take days
> > for
> >> a message to make it to another news server. And many messages
> >> disappear into the Internet bit bucket. If you post 5 messages on
> > news
> >> server "A", posts 1, 2, 4 and 5 might make it to news server "B"
and
> > 1,
> >> 3 and 4 might make it to news server "C".
> >>
> >> And even if you are looking at the "same" news server as the
original
> >> post, it might not really be the "same" news server. Larger ISPs
and
> >> newsgroup services have banks of news servers. Each time you
connect
> > to
> >> the newsgroups you may get a different server from the bank. They
> >> are
> >> supposed to be kept in synch so that they have the same news posts,
> > but
> >> it's not unusual for them to get out-of-synch. And so, some people
> >> using the "same" news server may see and reply to posts that others
> >> don't see.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
> >>
> >>
> >> "Emrys Davies" wrote in message
> >> $1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> >> >I use Win98 SE, OE6 and IE6.
> >> >
> >> > Sometimes when I reply to a post in these forums my reply does
not
> >> > show,
> >> > but I know that it has been received in the forum because of
> >> > references
> >> > made to it by other posters. Using 'Test' will not assist me in
> > these
> >> > circumstances.
> >> >
> >> > It seems to happen mostly when I send an URL. I give the server
> >> > plenty
> >> > of time to respond.
> >> >
> >> > Any ideas please?
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Emrys Davies.
> >
> > Michael,
> >
> > I replied to your post yesterday, but I cannot see it. Is it
visible
> > to
> > you?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Emrys Davies.

Just tried "msnews.microsoft.com" and all the posts, including the
missing ones, were present within seconds.
That is a pleasing development and many thanks for your very helpful
deliberations.

Regards,
Emrys Davies.

Michael Santovec · Joined: 12 Aug 2007 Posts: 182

You are welcome and thanks for posting back.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm

"Emrys Davies" wrote in message $HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> "Michael Santovec" wrote in message
> $HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> I see 2 replies to my post.
>>
>> This one
>> $1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com
>>
>> And one posted yesterday about the same time of day.
>> $1_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com
>>
>> I see that you are posting via Tiscali's news server.
>>
>> For best results, use the "msnews.microsoft.com" news server for
> reading
>> and posting messages regarding help with Microsoft products. This is
>> the news server that most of the regulars use. You'll get more
>> timely
>> messages, and miss fewer of them. News messages often take days to
>> wander from server to server, and often get lost.
>>
>> To set up an account for MSnews in OE
>> http://www.insideoe.com/resources/communities.htm#setupmsnews
>>
>> The "msnews.microsoft.com" news server is free to the public.
> However,
>> it only carries newsgroups to support Microsoft products. You'll
>> also
>> find many newsgroups that your ISP doesn't carry. This server has
> over
>> 2,000 Microsoft newsgroups.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>>
>>
>> "Emrys Davies" wrote in message
>> $1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>> > "Michael Santovec" wrote in message
>> > news:%23fUAbkU$HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> A number of things can go wrong with news posts that are out of
> your
>> >> control.
>> >>
>> >> When you post a news message, it is initially only available on
>> >> the
>> > news
>> >> server that you used. Depending on how busy the news server is,
>> >> it
>> >> might take a few seconds, a few minutes, or a few hours before the
>> >> message is available for reading. And only people who use the
>> >> same
>> > news
>> >> server can read your post, at that point.
>> >>
>> >> Periodically, the news server contacts one or more other news
>> >> servers.
>> >> It passes on any new posts that it has in public news groups and
>> >> in
>> > turn
>> >> receives any new posts that the other servers have. If the
> received
>> >> posts are for a news group that the server carries, the server
> keeps
>> >> a
>> >> copy. In this fashion, a news post is propagated to other news
>> > servers
>> >> around the world. This is not entirely reliable. It can take
>> >> days
>> > for
>> >> a message to make it to another news server. And many messages
>> >> disappear into the Internet bit bucket. If you post 5 messages on
>> > news
>> >> server "A", posts 1, 2, 4 and 5 might make it to news server "B"
> and
>> > 1,
>> >> 3 and 4 might make it to news server "C".
>> >>
>> >> And even if you are looking at the "same" news server as the
> original
>> >> post, it might not really be the "same" news server. Larger ISPs
> and
>> >> newsgroup services have banks of news servers. Each time you
> connect
>> > to
>> >> the newsgroups you may get a different server from the bank. They
>> >> are
>> >> supposed to be kept in synch so that they have the same news
>> >> posts,
>> > but
>> >> it's not unusual for them to get out-of-synch. And so, some
>> >> people
>> >> using the "same" news server may see and reply to posts that
>> >> others
>> >> don't see.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Emrys Davies" wrote in message
>> >> $1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>> >> >I use Win98 SE, OE6 and IE6.
>> >> >
>> >> > Sometimes when I reply to a post in these forums my reply does
> not
>> >> > show,
>> >> > but I know that it has been received in the forum because of
>> >> > references
>> >> > made to it by other posters. Using 'Test' will not assist me in
>> > these
>> >> > circumstances.
>> >> >
>> >> > It seems to happen mostly when I send an URL. I give the server
>> >> > plenty
>> >> > of time to respond.
>> >> >
>> >> > Any ideas please?
>> >> >
>> >> > Regards,
>> >> > Emrys Davies.
>> >
>> > Michael,
>> >
>> > I replied to your post yesterday, but I cannot see it. Is it
> visible
>> > to
>> > you?
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Emrys Davies.
>
>
> Just tried "msnews.microsoft.com" and all the posts, including the
> missing ones, were present within seconds.
> That is a pleasing development and many thanks for your very helpful
> deliberations.
>
> Regards,
> Emrys Davies.
>
>

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